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Animation Freeze when retroporting creatures

By XIajibawan
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Hello everyone,

Hope you are well.

I just want to get some idea from you guys, I tried to retroporting some mounts from Shadowlands, but the animation will freeze when I retroported the model to 3.3.5. I means that model can be retroport and anything looks good but except the animation will freeze.

May I get your help or ideas? thank you so much in advance.

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What mounts are you trying to retroport?

First thing I would try is to load the model with wowmodelviewer and see if the all the animations are broken or if the model animates correctly there. (put the model into an .mpq file and load the file with the WotLK / Pandaria version of wowmodelviewer).

A thing I noticed when retroporting flying mounts is that some of the animation lookups get scrambled, probably because the new models have specific animation IDs for flying animations and WotLK models use the swimming animations IDs for flying. When that happens the model will use the idle animation or (sometimes) the swim backwards animation instead of the correct one.
Is this what is happening to you?

If that's the case, the only way I found to correct the issue is to load the retroported model with wowmodelviewer, look at all the animations, write down the IDs of the animations I'm looking for then load the .ms on 010 editor, pass it through the M2Template and manually fix the IDs and the Lookups of the animations by hand.

May be something similar is happening to you.

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2 hours ago, Atraxian said:

What mounts are you trying to retroport?

First thing I would try is to load the model with wowmodelviewer and see if the all the animations are broken or if the model animates correctly there. (put the model into an .mpq file and load the file with the WotLK / Pandaria version of wowmodelviewer).

A thing I noticed when retroporting flying mounts is that some of the animation lookups get scrambled, probably because the new models have specific animation IDs for flying animations and WotLK models use the swimming animations IDs for flying. When that happens the model will use the idle animation or (sometimes) the swim backwards animation instead of the correct one.
Is this what is happening to you?

If that's the case, the only way I found to correct the issue is to load the retroported model with wowmodelviewer, look at all the animations, write down the IDs of the animations I'm looking for then load the .ms on 010 editor, pass it through the M2Template and manually fix the IDs and the Lookups of the animations by hand.

May be something similar is happening to you.

thank you my hero. your idea is very useful for me. I find that ID and edit it via 010 editor. the mount works well now. thank you again.

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On 6/19/2023 at 10:13 PM, Atraxian said:

What mounts are you trying to retroport?

First thing I would try is to load the model with wowmodelviewer and see if the all the animations are broken or if the model animates correctly there. (put the model into an .mpq file and load the file with the WotLK / Pandaria version of wowmodelviewer).

A thing I noticed when retroporting flying mounts is that some of the animation lookups get scrambled, probably because the new models have specific animation IDs for flying animations and WotLK models use the swimming animations IDs for flying. When that happens the model will use the idle animation or (sometimes) the swim backwards animation instead of the correct one.
Is this what is happening to you?

If that's the case, the only way I found to correct the issue is to load the retroported model with wowmodelviewer, look at all the animations, write down the IDs of the animations I'm looking for then load the .ms on 010 editor, pass it through the M2Template and manually fix the IDs and the Lookups of the animations by hand.

May be something similar is happening to you.

hi Bro, do you have a mounts named "DarkHoundMount" from Shandowlands to WotLK? can you share it to me? I want to have a comparation? thank you in advance.

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I didn't retroport it  yet, but I can try later today.

EDIT: seems to be working fineWoWScrnShot_062123_184737.thumb.jpg.6b38c610ac7ab79221ee0f6d29721ff4.jpg

seems to be only missing the particles. They are actually there, but retroporting the model messed up the emitters parameters and they do not fly out of the mane of the creature (didn't have time to modify them by hand).

Remember that for models with .anim files you have to run those files through the multiconverter too or some of the animations will be messed up.

darkhoundmount.zip

EDIT2: another thing I noticed is that the light coming from the eyes of the shoulderpads aren't animated.  Probably need to look at whar mesh it is and animate it by hand in the .skin files.

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2 hours ago, Atraxian said:

I didn't retroport it  yet, but I can try later today.

EDIT: seems to be working fineWoWScrnShot_062123_184737.thumb.jpg.6b38c610ac7ab79221ee0f6d29721ff4.jpg

seems to be only missing the particles. They are actually there, but retroporting the model messed up the emitters parameters and they do not fly out of the mane of the creature (didn't have time to modify them by hand).

Remember that for models with .anim files you have to run those files through the multiconverter too or some of the animations will be messed up.

darkhoundmount.zip

thank you bro.

I think I found the root issue. that's come from the jm2converter. I tried to retroport this mount to Vanilla but it cannot work even if it works at WotLK. I always thought something was wrong with me, but it wasn't until you gave me this model that I realized it was a problem with jm2converter.

do you have any idea to retrooport this mount to Vanilla? I really like it.  :)

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On 3/5/2022 at 10:24 AM, UndeadMurky said:

该工具可以工作,您只需要将缺少的纹理添加到您的香草客户端(大多数新模型也......具有新纹理)。

 

On 2/16/2019 at 2:56 PM, Stan84 said:

这是命令行工具,不能拖放使用。只需输入cmd,将路径更改为放置jm2converer的位置,然后输入:java -jar jm2converer.jar -in <model_name_to_be_converted.m2> -out <output_model_name.m2> -cl,之后您的输出模型将是vanilla版本,所以你可以在 mdlvis 中打开它并保存到 mdx。

您好~mdlvis在那里可以下载到?是插件还是软件?

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