[Roccus]

I'm not someone who want any conflicts with anybody except for two things: respect and content stealing.

That's why I call every proud modders and creator of various content to boycott and attack RPHeaven and their service to teach them a lesson about respect and not to fuck with us.

 

I know I'm not the only one who suffered from their shit, that's why i'm making a call for everybody who want to get their sweet revenge. I'm even calling the biggest heads into this.

 

Recently after one of their members used this patch: 

no problem, I made it public and I had the credit on their server. UNTIL THIS WEEK where I see that they came to the server I work for to take a private patch for their own use and lying about the fact he tried to contact me so with no permission he just posted it, aka my tricorne i adapted from a free .obj from borderland and one beanie of BFA I made from A to Z from a screenshot. So I told everyone there that it was my work and that I wanted it to be taken down. and the shit started. I'll just post the proof of how cancerous they are and how much they need to pay and get boycotted.

 

At first I was ok with the taking, it was done, it's over but when they lied and took me for a fool, i changed my mind and asked for the shutdown

 

Then I tried to be as polite as posible while being extremely upset and this what their admin answered me and the following pictures are what happened next (Yes I could only harass and spam them sith multiple account since they insta-ban me):

 

 

And personnally the best one yet that is an insult to every server and people who work hard to make exclusive content:

 

and they even told me on discord "We will never shut it down" "We will keep stealing ur patches"

 

 

Yes it can be cringy to some or child play but it's not ! It's not just a patch shutdown battle anymore it's a fight for the respect we, content creators deserve. OUR work, OUR right on it, OUR fight against the fucking leechers that think they are big cause they steal from everybody.

 

I won't stop even if it last for years, never ! And i won't just shut my mouth like some did, accepting the fact that they couldn't do shit about it (and i'm not judging or insulting you, I understand that you want not to waste time !). We need to strike where it hurts, they already have no reputation, a reputation as high as that of a pig in the mud shitting itself. But that won't keep us to push them even further in this mud.

 

I'm calling you fellow modders and content creators, unite and strike this leechers hub and teach them a lesson ! Even if I have to fight alone, that won't stop me. And you ?

 

[Rangorn]

I will  speak as Administrator of Kuretar,

Kuretar is not involved in this conflict, it's about leeching / steeling content whatever, between some ppl, not a conflict between servers, i prefer to clarify this, before some ppl said "kuretar and roccus want to attack RPH, woooow"

If people wants to waste their time by doing this, then do it, but do not involve Kuretar in this drama.

Thanks.

 

Edit : my fucking god, Nortwin grow up, little childish nerd with 2 IQ, don't compare AMC Series with WoW emulation, you are good at one thing, donating money, then keep doing this and shut ur mouth.

 

 

[Amaroth]

This project again, and this kind of "discussion" - again? As much as I feel for you Roccus (provided you deserve it and you are not telling us just part of story which is convenient for you - no offence meant, just realize that we are not informed enough to objectively judge), this doesn't lead anywhere. I am not really fan of "Just ignore idiots.". Thats very stupid and short-sighted statement if taken too literally, yes. Having said that, giving too much attention to idiots doesn't make things better, either. Everything with moderation. And there was already one topic about RPHeaven here and note that it is closed and moved to trash bin, and for some reason.

[Roccus]

Won't stop me, yes I said horrible things to them because they didn't respect me insulted etc, and I don't care, i know there was a topic made by chase that was closed. Letting idiots go on without doing a thing doesn't help either, sometime you must slap it so that he will remember and not with diplomacy.

 

Then if y'all think I'm pretty stupid a prick or anything else feel free to believe it but that's not just me those things are an insult to every modder's work and I'll continue.

 

As I said I'll continue even if I have to do it alone for months

[Valaryon]

Whilst I completely agree with your stand against RPH, you should be aware that people will always steal others' content and claim it as their own. I've seen people steal public, free and open sourced patches and claim them for their own to reap the credit from it. Just keep it in mind that if you release things publicly, this can and will eventually happen. It may have happened before, and you simply weren't made aware of it. RPH has a history of just leeching content from other sources to avoid doing anything on their own.

The community congregates in an echo chamber where they have to agree with the Admin or get banned, so you can't expect anyone to help you from there either. 

What can we the Modding Community do against RPH besides refuse to help them? They're already stealing content without permission, and there is no way we can 'punish' them for it. As brutal as it sounds, I think people just shouldn't release content that you aren't willing to let others claim credit for. 

[Roccus]

Attack their service, spam them, flood their forums, there's multiple ways to attack them. And i don't expect anyone from RPH to help me since they are all like their admin. Just need to attack them again and again and again. We have all the time. And i know multiple modders that were on RPH before + I have know their reputation for months still it's not just me, my work / âtches anymore. They have clearly stated that we are all their little bitches and that we work for them. Then why not release fake patches with full virus or cancer for them or maybe encrypt archive with password with bullshit content into them. Flood them with request, flood their discord, flood their forum. There's multiple ways to attack.

[wungasaurus]

What the fuck is wrong with you?

[MR.Farrarie]

I worked with Roccus before. As much as our differences and disagreement, I know this man he don't lie.

I have a small advice for you Roccus ((Learn from your mistakes and never show your hatred toward your enemies.

what happened just happened, you cant do nothing about it. You will only hurt your self more and more)).

By the way, all of us use an engine that is not ours, and most of us use blizzard models.We are like pirates. Most pirates steal from each other.

[Roccus]

Still I want this topic to remain as a warning and to show everybody how shitty they are + it will trash their reputation even more

even though they don't have any, i understand that i'll have to do this all alone, then i'll do it alone

 

[Soldan]

Hey man, 

I feel you - I've had that happen to me before and it is annoying at the start (especially when the leechers are selling your models on their donation shop - this happened to me recently with another server). However, you just have to look past it and try to change your mentality towards leeching.

Rather than cursing and hating them, you should instead feel quite proud. You know what they say:

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The best compliment someone could give you is to copy you.

The fact that they took the stuff, custom models usually being the case - simply shows that they are admitting your content is good (probably better than they could do combined), and that you have superior skill to them when it comes to creating said models. If they leeched it, it usually means it is quite good. 

And it isn't just you or me saying that, it's them saying it as well with their actions.

Hope this makes you feel atleast a little bit better

Peace, 

Soldan

 

[Roccus]

I know my stuff is good, I'm one of the rare legion modder, and sure it's like admitting they can't do shit by using my stuff but on my pov it's disrespectful as hell. I won't change my mentality, being is leecher is being the worst kind of scum. 

 

Oh and by the way they got a problem with french people too to make it even better

[Skarn]

There are no ways you can prevent leechers from stealing your content. It has always been happening and probably will always happen. Despite that I work with many awesome people from the WoW RP community, I have to admit that most of these content stealing dramas somehow happen within the WoW RP community. Not saying anything, just a fun fact. 

If you want to make the life harder for them, protect your patches in the best way possible (even though everything is reversable, but people who steal other people's content cannot really create anything themselves and therefore most likely won't be able to do it). You can also leave a sort of signature inside the files, so the fact that you've made the file can be easily proved, which could down the reputation of these people.

I personally do not think anyone should do the things that you suggested to this server. Attack on a server is first of all an attack on the players who spend time and have fun there, and secondly on admins. The players did not steal your content. What can be done instead is gathering evidence that these people steal content, posting it on the boards where they get players from, asking the admins of these boards to stop supporting them, and so on. 

[Roccus]

Actually the players stole my content, and admin protects them, but yeah good idea there. Gave me another idea to trash them.

 

What is even worse, the player promised me to shut down the link but act like an absent one proving that he's worse than expected. Exscuse me but those are not players, they are only toxic being stacked in the same place.

 

And players are insulting me and modders like people who are fucked in the head and for french people, the typical "french fag"

[Roccus]

As they stated too, as "A Big Community" and "Biggest RP server" like a threat, Well the big community is so incompetent they rely on the smaller yet servers of bigger quality with real competent people to get stuff for their use. They act like they have quality, big community and all where they do only shit lel. Full h24 meme and toxic behaviour to get likes.

[wungasaurus]

So players use your content? Isn’t that exactly how stuff is to be used?! How is it the server‘s fault if players use it? I’m horribly confused.

[MrXJKz]

I've got some differences and troubles with Roccus, we aren't talking so much now. I totally agree with him about the work, we aren't your industries to make a patch to be delivred to anyone. If we want to share that with you, with the community, with a entiere server, we'll post it with our names. We're working for ourself because we like to do this, we like to do modding. We share with our own community, because they deserve it, understand him. If release a patch on your server, and someone take your work without contacting you and you see that, what will be your reaction ? You'll be happy and say "it's for players, lulz" ?

 

I was a leecher at the time of Cataclysm, when I've learned modding 'n stuff, I don't leech anymore because I know the pain for the one who work, when I leeched the Rangorn HD models I haven't see the work he has done to it. Now, I can import what I want in Legion. In French modding community, I'm just a kiddie and I accept it. But I've learned the respect of the work. If you don't respect the work, if you don't respect the time passed on it, why you're on a modding community ? Roccus isn't a kiddie who don't want to share, he's here for everyone who wants help, his arms is fully open to help you. 

 

There's no respect now, because internet. Because kiddies, they don't want to learn something. Because they're just idiots to learn anythings. Like Skarn said it, there's no way to prevent this, but soon, trust me. We'll found a way to fuck them up, to stop this fucking shit.

 

I'm bored to see that kind of stuff, rly.

[Rangorn]

3 hours ago, wungasaurus said:

So players use your content? Isn’t that exactly how stuff is to be used?! How is it the server‘s fault if players use it? I’m horribly confused.

There is a difference between using a custom patch as a player and stealing a content, posting it on another server forum, and got all the credits for it.

If i stole your rootreader, and claim i am the creator, i don't think you will enjoy this trickery

The more annoying part, is when ppl think the leecher is the original creator, and the leecher get a lot of thanks from this other community, and you, the real original creator is considered as a fucking rat, this is what happened to Roccus here.

[Amaroth]

On 22. 12. 2017 at 9:40 AM, Roccus said:

Attack their service, spam them, flood their forums, there's multiple ways to attack them. And i don't expect anyone from RPH to help me since they are all like their admin. Just need to attack them again and again and again. We have all the time. And i know multiple modders that were on RPH before + I have know their reputation for months still it's not just me, my work / âtches anymore. They have clearly stated that we are all their little bitches and that we work for them. Then why not release fake patches with full virus or cancer for them or maybe encrypt archive with password with bullshit content into them. Flood them with request, flood their discord, flood their forum. There's multiple ways to attack.

I absolutely hate and despise people who steal content of others and claim it to be their own.

Guess what, I also absolutely hate and despise people who troll, re-create accounts after getting banned, attempt DoS attacks or even spread malware and try to damage work of GMs and fun of players on project just because they can or just because they don't like that particular project for any reason they find suitable.

 

You want us to fight internet kid morons we despise and hate - by becoming internet kid morons we despise and hate? Isn't it obvious to you how ridiculously stupid and childish is thing you are asking of us?

[Supora]

So what about our community then? We are leaching blizzard game engine, textures, models really often. So maybe Blizzard should start to DoS our sites or smth?

[Roccus]

I ask people who want, I don't care if I'm alone, If it's childish to keep coming back to annoy them cause they sent me out like shit for no reason, then I'm a big kid and I don't care. I don't care about my reputation, I'm just a pseudo on the internet. Only my work matters.

 

There's no GM on RPH. There's only kids and toxic persons who aren't worth their position. GM are respectful person who should always be diplomate and defend the common sense, politeness, respect of the rules and be image of the behaviour to have on the server.

 

Here we have an admin who insta ban those who don't go in his way, insta-ban content creator that argue when their content are leeched. That is not what i call a server, it's just a trash place where toxics stack. And players there are just as bad as their admin.

 

Just ignoring is just the easy way to do things but it doesn't resolve any shit. When you are harassed, just ignoring your aggressor won't change anything, you have to take actions to make it stop.

 

Yes we are using Blizzard stuff, we've been using it for years so what ? Us content creator aren't making any benefits in general when owning a server, usually it's more money consuming than money earning. Even if it's based on Blizzard stuff, this is style our interpretation and modelling of what we always wanted the game to be. Our world of warcraft, our vision, our work. Guess what ? Some people were so good at manipulating blizzard's stuff in machinima and other montage that they won prizes and some even got a job at blizzard's. What would have those people done if some little cunt leeched their stuff to won prizes by posing as the creator of the stolen stuff ? They would have taken actions.

 

Now if you aren't willing to do anything and take it the easy way by ignoring them. Well do it your way. I am not letting them rest. 

+ The pirate hat I've adapted was from yobi3D website which does'nt state any specific copyright rule

+ The beanie was made entirely by me by hand from nothing but a screenshot from Battle for Azeroth and texture made with the screenshot, so it's fully made by me.

+ We are no lawyers here, the copyright law is very grey and not specific for some things

+ It's legal to showoff your work and ripping models for personnal use and educational purpose so distributing it for personnal use or educational purpose shouldn't be a problem (with the creator permission) as long as it's not making any money but I and you're not any lawyer there to talk about the law.

+ Stealing a content and passing as the creator is being one of the shittiest kind of person's.

[Rangorn]

52 minutes ago, Supora said:

So what about our community then? We are leaching blizzard game engine, textures, models really often. So maybe Blizzard should start to DoS our sites or smth?

 

This kind of guy... my god....

Ok, TrinityCore is an emulator for World of Warcraft, but everyone knows that the original game is World of Warcraft, did you understand that ?

It's the same thing for modding, i don't want to waste time arguing about this stupid argument.

 

Stop confuse everything with shit examples and things that doesn't make sense with the original subject of this thread.

[Supora]

4 minutes ago, Rangorn said:

 

This kind of guy... my god....

Ok, TrinityCore is an emulator for World of Warcraft, but everyone knows that the original game is World of Warcraft, did you understand that ?

It's the same thing for modding, i don't want to waste time arguing about this stupid argument.

 

Stop confuse everything with shit examples and things that doesn't make sense with the original subject of this thread.

Same thing I can say about your example. It's shit for me. If you guys want me to boycott a sever then ok I'll not play there.

[Rangorn]

You didn't read the thread.

I don't call massive boycott for RPH, Roccus did, not me.

 

 

[Supora]

2 minutes ago, Rangorn said:

You didn't read the thread.

I don't call massive boycott for RPH, Roccus did, not me.

 

 

And I didn't point my whole post only to you either.

[Vlad]

I've been watching this thread of a while now, and I think i'm finally able to comment.

 

As much as it sucks, you are the one who released it to the public and should expect people to use it in some form. Policing everyone's usage of your content is asinine. 

They aren't in open competition with you, as your server is French, and theirs is English.